comments on “the funeral”

In reading the chapter The Funeral, Cyndi commented on Marshall’s reaction to the news that starling is living in Pete’s apartment. He’s met Pete and considers him fairly normal and respectable (for a rock and roll musician, at least), so he can’t really accept the fact that Pete is friends with starling.

This isn’t meant to show that Marshall is wrong or peculiar, but more that this would be a pretty common reaction in this situation. If anything, in this situation, it’s Pete whose reaction is unusual, though not unusual for him.

But even Pete’s relaxed, bohemian approach to these things is tested by what he learned at the end of the last chapter, of course.

Cyndi got a laugh out of this:

“Good God,” Marshall said, leaning back on the bed, “the poor bastard didn’t stand a chance.”

I commented that Marshall is always working to contain and control his employer’s sexuality, and to belittle her attractiveness, in various ways, to which Cyndi remarked, “Feh.”

In Marshall’s defense, I mentioned that this game the two of them play is far from being as unequal as it might appear at this point.

Cyndi also commented on Jan Sleet’s not remembering the name of the young man she had the date with. I commented that she probably did remember his name, and was just playing it casual. I also mentioned that we would meet the man in question, Dennis, in a later chapter.

One thing Cyndi commented on was that Marshall is in a situation, unusual for him, where he is being noticed for himself, not just as the assistant of a fairly well known reporter and amateur detective. Both Vicki and the Jinx, especially Dr. Lee, are quite interested in Marshall for himself, including inviting him to a funeral to which is employer is specifically not invited. As I say, this is an unusual situation for him, but it is one which he, rather quietly, enjoys.

Pete is in a precarious situation at the funeral, though only he is aware of it, because only he is aware of how conflicted starling is about being there. He persuaded her to come, but he knows there is a very real chance she will flip out and people will die. This is not a situation she would ever have let herself be in under normal circumstances.

This leaves Pete very little attention for other questions, like how Donna feels about what Frances says to her, for example.

But it’s not just the worry that starling will kill somebody, though he can tell himself that’s the main issue. But the main thing is that he cares about her, more than he would admit to anybody, including himself.

Which is mutual. In this exchange, I show it in miniature: “I’m going to get another beer,” she said, getting to her feet. She thought for a moment, then she added, “I’ll get one for you, too.” She hesitated. “Do you want one?”

A friend I knew on the BBSs years ago, named Bob Bernstein, said that in his work as a therapist, with some patients the most important thing he could do was to (re)teach them how to relate to other people, using their sessions with him as a classroom, so they could learn the skills they could then apply in other relationships in their lives. When he said this, it really gave me the key to starling’s relationship with Pete (which is why Bob got a thank you here). This is what Pete is doing with starling, not intentionally, but simply by being willing to accept her for what she is, by being willing to treat her as a person, without pre-judging her for what she’s done. In that little excerpt above, we see her (as I say, in miniature, in one paragraph), start to figure out how to include someone else in her life, how not to be so completely alone as she has been for a long time.

(Reminder to myself: Add Cyndi and a couple of others to the Thanks page.)

One thing that’s interesting about Christy is that, as Cyndi and I discussed, she’s fairly “girly” (shy and awkward about her attraction to Marshall, wearing skirts and glowing stuff in her hair), but you can never forget that she’s a Jinx. She’s unfazed by starling, she’s not fazed by very much, as we (and Marshall) will see more in the next chapter.

The coffee scene strikes me funny at this point (starling and Pete buying the special coffee), because when I first wrote that scene, I set the price at $2 a cup, which at that point (over ten years ago) was a ridiculously high price for a cup of coffee. When I was rewriting it a couple of years ago, I raised it to $4. I obviously should have made it more, but it’s difficult to come up with a ridiculously high price for a cup of coffee these days which doesn’t become commonplace the week after. I should write a PHP script to increase the price on a regular basis, trying to keep it ahead of reality.

I also mentioned the agreement between starling and Pete, that she will be his friend. One thing which they have in common is that they are not, as the phrase goes, “in touch with their emotions,” and so they had to find a way to be together, which they both obviously want to do, without either one of them having to actually talk about how they feel. This is one reason I’ve emphasized in a couple of places how similar they look (height, build, hair color) because, despite their obvious differences, they are very similar in many ways.

This chapter and the next one used to be one chapter, but I broke it into two partly because I really didn’t want another very long chapter right after Curse the Darkness, but also to highlight this moment, their agreement, because it looks like it’s not that big a deal, but it sets the course for the rest of both of their lives, including in the chapter I’m writing now, where things will take a sudden turn that neither of them anticipated.

Speaking of that chapter, Undertown, the first part is posted here. More will be made available as it’s completed (and my usual little teasers will be added to each part). And thanks also to Cyndi for reminding me of the Undertown project, which is about to become a major plot point in the new novel.

comments on “starling”

Cyndi has commented on starling, chapter seven of U-town. My responses to her comments are in italics.

is the scene with Carl, Jenny and starling a flashback? I assume it is since Carl and Jenny are dead now, but it’s a little unclear to me. you make it clear later, when focusing on Pete and starling, but it’s unclear before then.

The entire chapter is a flashback, and the chapter after it as well. In the next chapter, we’ll see the day before the gig, and the morning of the day itself, leading up to the beginning of the Prove It chapter, when Pete and Jenny are in bed together.

starling was already in Pete’s life during the earlier chapters, but she wasn’t around on the afternoon or evening of the gig at the Quarter, and we’ll see why. It seemed like a good idea to show the other characters and relationships before introducing starling, to make it clearer what she’s coming into.

Then, with Curse the Darkness, we jump back to the “present.”

interesting that starling is considered the most dangerous woman in the world. are you going to detail why, later? I mean from what I already know, she handles guns and (I presume) knives very well.

The clues are in the newspaper headlines (and in how people react to her, of course). She’s killed a lot of people.

the scene when everyone meets at the apartment again is a little bit lighthearted to me. I like the tone of that. with the chaos at once. I especially liked Carl’s response: “All this yelling is disturbing to a person of my delicate artistic temperament . . .”

Well, it shows how wrapped up they are in their own lives (especially Henshaw and Jenny) that the arrival of a famous mass murderer into their midst barely affects them at all.

interesting that you note that Henshaw and Jenny neither one looked exactly happy while making out. it makes me wonder why they would do it if they weren’t even happy about it in the first place.

That observation was made about my and a girlfriend once, when we were making out at a club. Sometimes a relationship can be perversely (and sexually) satisfying without actually making you “happy.”

if I were starling, I’d be a little put off at how much commotion my appearance in a bar made.

She’s used to it, in fact she barely notices it.

I like the quirk in Pete’s personality that causes him to take notes very meticulously like he does.

Based on a friend I used to know, including the various details I throw in, like the comics he draws featuring people he knows on Star Trek and so on.

I really like the detail you go into from starling’s point of view when she awakes in the middle of the night.

Well, it is important to see her a little from the inside, not just from how people react to her.

Pete sleeping with his best friend’s girlfriend does most certainly raise questions as to who’s the crazy one in this situation.. ha!

Exactly. Especially since we already know that Henshaw has a temper, and settles things with his fists. And, as I think I’ve conveyed, Pete is not a fighter.

this part tickles me like you wouldn’t believe:
      starling thought about this. “But he’s annoying me.”
      “He’ll stop.”
      “Immediately!” Carl added.
the whole exchange involving her almost stabbing him is very funny, really.

We’ll get a better sense later on of how much she was serious here, and how much she was playing.

this bit taking place in the February Island coffee shop seems lighthearted. a lot of the chapter does, actually.

Again, the next one won’t be as light. The thing that makes this chapter more serious is that, as much fun as we’re having reading it, we know that Carl and Jenny are about to die.

George is an interesting character–the area he lives in (apparently) seems like a commune. will I be hearing more about this place?

Some. George will be back, but not as a major character. He’s based on a character (of the same name) in Dhalgren.

One thing the search for Deirdre Hammersmith does for us is give us an opportunity to take a little tour of U-town. That’s not why starling is doing it, but it lets us draw back the camera a little and show more than we’ve seen before.

UnderTown.. very interesting.. I really like the idea of a literal town under the town quite a lot. it kind of plays into the fantasy realm of things to me.

Interesting comment. I didn’t do much more with the Undertown, but now (now that you’ve given me a nudge to look in that direction) it will figure in a major way in what I’m writing now. Thanks. 🙂

from the way you describe things, I get the feeling that Jenn and Henshaw’s relationship is NOT, by any means, a happy one. that’d explain why she’s sleeping with Pete too.

Yes. Henshaw is not exactly “emotionally available,” though the relationship gives her a lot of other things. Of course, Pete isn’t really emotionally available either. That side of Jenny (the side that deliberately screws things up, on the basis that they’ll get screwed up eventually anyway, so you might as well eliminate the suspense) is based on a guy I used to know. One time he was involved with four different women (including the one I later married, and her best friend), and I think he knew the whole thing would go bad eventually, so he invited them all out to dinner at the same time, to get it over with.

interesting moment with Carl and Daphne.. kinda surreal.

Daphne is sort of an illustration of how I work. It occurred to me one day that none of the characters had pets. Well, that ended up with Daphne (who is a pretty important character, and who has just re-appeared in what I’m writing now).

I’m not too keen on how jumpy starling gets–I get a feeling that one day she may snatch her gun and start firing away without really thinking.

You’re right.

comments on U-town

Before I start the actual entry, I will mention that the new chapter, Quartet, is done. You can read it, starting with the first part, here. Or, if you’ve read what was posted already (up to SarahBeth meeting Pete and Katherine for dinner), you can pick up the action here. Or you can get the whole chapter in one file here.

Now we join our regularly scheduled entry:

My friend Cyndi has been reading U-town, and she has sent me some very interesting comments, which I’ll excerpt here. The parts in italics are my replies.

Chapter One: A Quiet Night at Duffy’s

here I sit.. reading chapter one. the tone from the prologue is still there.. mysterious.. curious.. you get the idea. it’s very fitting so far.

I’m wondering about the sandy-haired guy talking to the empty air next to him.. is he a bit off his rocker, or what? I’m sure I’ll find out later.

there is a LOT more of a feeling of mystery to this one than A Sane Woman.. and it feels even a little bit fantasy or sci-fi inspired, too.

very exciting, so far. I’m curious about the next chapter already. I’ll be getting to that soon (if not in a minute).

Glad you’re liking it so far. The first chapter is definitely intended to set a mood, and I guess it is sort of a mystery, though not a murder mystery (though, as you’ll discover, there is a murder mystery included in the story).

You’re definitely correct to see that this is fantasy/sci-fi inspired (and very much influenced by magical realism as well, which is in the same ballpark). It is a sequel to ASW, more or less, but it shows a larger world (many more characters) and it’s a larger world which includes people like Randi (and Vicki for that matter).

As you’ll see, the narrative becomes more straightforward after the first chapter (except for a few touches).

Chapter 2: A World so Alive

okay, I’m curious who Randi is. I’m sure I’ll find that out as the story progresses, of course. the different points of view so far are.. well.. they add to the story. I can’t think of a good word, but they do add to the story.

the “episode 1” breaks make things seem a little bit less confusing so far, just so you know.

I’m curious who the couple kissing in the kitchen are. this method you’re using, jumping from scene to scene, gives me a sense of the way TV works these days–small bits of information delivered at a fast pace.

you’re very good at keeping people wondering and curious enough to keep reading for more information.

pretty convenient of Chet to have a girlfriend who can rescue everybody in a moment’s notice like Randi does.

I’ll tackle some more chapters later on. this is really good so far.

You’ll find out more about Randi, but her actual history won’t be revealed until the current novel (and I’m not at that part yet, though it is written). She’s the person who the guy in the bar is talking to (when he appears to be talking to himself).

The Episode breaks are there from when it was posted on BBSs. Those chapters are written to that rhythm, and it didn’t work to take the subheadings out, so I left them in. I also couldn’t take them out (without a lot of other work) since in some later chapters the parts have titles as well.

The couple kissing in the kitchen was Henshaw and Jenny. If that wasn’t clear, it will be clarified in a later chapter when we see that evening again, from another point of view.

Chapter 3: The Mystery Dance

I’m about halfway through the third chapter and I realized I needed to write and tell you what I think.

overall, the mood is, so far, considerably lighter. this story so far feels like the kind of story where everything happens at night.. kinda like those movies where you rarely see the sun.

I find it very interesting that the club that Paris and Vicki and Jan Sleet went to was so quiet because everyone had on earphones. very interesting. it reminds me of those commercials for a portable mp3 player (I believe) that featured that alien or whatever it was. I forget the brand name.

Paris is in a gang, isn’t he? I’m wondering more and more why Vicki is so powerful that she can wrench the knob off of the ladies’ restroom door.

I didn’t know Jan Sleet smoked a pipe. very interesting. it adds to her odd character description.

interesting that the cops would give Jan Sleet problems but completely ignore Vicki, especially when keeping in mind that she throttled a good number of cops in chapter 2 (if I’m recalling correctly).. I’d think they’d have an all points bulletin out on her or something for that.

I find the closing of this chapter to be humorous.. not hilarious, but kind of funny.

Paris is in a gang, but maybe not exactly the type of gang you’re thinking of. We’ll learn more about that.

Jan smokes a pipe from time to time, mostly when she’s concentrating on thinking about something. As for why the cops picked her up, it was for a different reason (which you may know already, if you’ve read more).

Vicki did kill a cop (by punching him in the stomach), but remember that none of the cops survived Duffy’s (or had time to report what had happened).

Chapter 4: Prove It (Just the Facts)

okay, plowing right into chapter four..

the intro to this is funny to me. it makes me think of those affidavit thingies that you hear about people signing for court cases.

Carl strikes me as very easygoing in this chapter. easygoing and playful, for certain. bored, perhaps?

I see the imagery of Henshaw and Jenny kissing in the kitchen again, from a different point of view. it seems clearer this time than before.

seeing Jenny attack Henshaw from another point of view helped clarify a few things too. I wasn’t sure she’d attacked him, but now I’m pretty certain. why, I don’t know yet. I imagine it was simply being too drunk.

I love the way the story seems to jump around from person to person and from one part of the timeline to the next. it keeps me interested.

I don’t quite know why the cops would be after Pete. though I imagine they’d be chasing after Vicki after what she did to the bunch in the bar in chapter two.

the scene around the fire is very tranquil. it gives me the feeling of “calm before the storm”.

shame to find out that Carl’s dead from mouthing off at a couple of frat boys. yikes.. interesting development that his death is possibly bringing, based on what Jenn said, anyway.

and you ended the chapter on that note. good cliffhanger. nothing too suspenseful, but definitely enough to keep me curious.

Carl is pretty easy-going, especially compared to the other members of his band, who are not (in different ways).

Jenny, as we’ll learn, has some pretty big issues going on.

Chapter 5: Pre-War Housing

I like the “the story so far” intro here. it comes off as kind of tongue-in-cheek to me. I dunno why. the tone of it just seems very casual for something so otherwise serious.

I’m very curious about Marshall’s relationship with Jan Sleet even though they’re strictly (as far as I know anyway) colleagues. I mean, there is a chemistry between the two of them that says there’s something more there. maybe it’s just close friends but still, I’m curious.

just how skinny is Jan Sleet, anyway?.

T.C. doesn’t seem to care that it’s a federal offense to tear open someone else’s mail, huh? unless it’s not a federal offense where she is..?

does Marshall like Jan Sleet in more than a professional/buddies manner of speaking, by any chance?

Jan Sleet doesn’t strike me as the type who would carry a freakin’ WEAPON. o_O maybe I’m wrong, but she never struck me as that type, even in the case of being in U-Town.

I get the feeling that Vicki is going to fit in perfectly with T.C. and her crew. I think the part with her picking T.C. up in her chair is quite funny. if this were a movie, it’d be a very delightful comic relief moment.

I like the fact, more and more, that you made Vicki so very small because people’s reactions to her size and then to her amazing strength are always amusing to me.

The “story so far” is left over from when I was posting this on the BBSs (piece by piece), and I wanted to remind people of what was going on. I left it in because it seemed to work right there.

Marshall and Jan will make it very clear whether they’re sleeping together or not. And she is very skinny. The biggest thing to remember is that this is later than ASW, some time has passed, their relationship has developed.

Jan probably wouldn’t carry a weapon, but she might make Marshall carry one (if she thought it was a good idea). Even if he wasn’t too keen on the idea himself.

It is true (as you point out in a couple of places) that “Pre-War Housing” is a “lighter” chapter (lighter in tone, and also fairly short). This was deliberate, since “Prove It” is longer and somewhat heaver, and the following chapter is longer and heavier also. It seemed nice to have a kind of break in between, but also it shows (probably not that obviously) something about Jan Sleet and Marshall.

Jan, when we see her in the earlier chapters, is unhappy and scared and uncertain (not surprising, considering what’s happening to her). Now she’s back and she’s cheerful and optimistic and confident. What’s changed? She has Marshall with her now. I don’t mention this anywhere (and neither of them would ever say anything about it), but she’s not the same without him, not in situations which are potentially dangerous (she is, as we’ll see later, quite happy going out on a date without him, though 🙂 ).

Oh, and I mentioned how this is later than ASW (though I don’t specify how much later). Their relationship has developed. One indication is how formal they are with each other in ASW. He mentions at one point that she complains if he takes his shoes off in their hotel suite, and they have separate bedrooms. Here (we’ll see more of this as the story goes along), they’re quite comfortable sharing a room, and taking their clothes off around each other. Their “relationship” may appear weird, but they’ve both become much more comfortable with that, because it works for them.

Oh, and you’re absolutely right, Vicki will fit in perfectly with T.C. and her crew. Jan Sleet less so, but she’s used to being an oddball (and, in fact, she sort of works at it, given her clothes and so on).

The thing about Vicki is not only how small and strong she is, but how immediately comfortable she is about it.

Chapter 6: One Night at the Quarter

the switch to Marshall’s point of view is welcome, having been exposed to it once before. what I want to know, though, is if he feels like his talents have been wasted because Jan Sleet asked him if he could type, take shorthand, and do research.. and he doesn’t hardly do any of it.

Well, no, because Marshall feels he does many vital things for Jan Sleet, including keeping her alive and keeping her focused (and, as we learned in ASW, occasionally discouraging her suitors). Of course, this is his view of it, hers is probably somewhat different.

the scene with Vicki handling the belligerent drunk–right down to tearing his pants to shreds–made me laugh out loud. it worked very well.

This is brought out more explicitly later, that Vicki tries to find creative solutions to situations like this, because she realizes how easy it would be for her to injure or kill somebody accidentally if she really gets into a fight with them. She didn’t plan to kill the cop in Duffy’s, after all.

I’m curious what’s going on with Marshall driving a motorcycle with the rest of the Jinx members–namely while drunk.

Marshall has a somewhat wilder side, but he likes being respectable, so when he does get a little wilder, he usually has an excuse. For this reason, he may be exaggerating how drunk he was. We’ll see him do this again (though mostly he isn’t that wild).

what kind of gang are they, anyway? they come off as good people–the good guys, and yet “the enemy” is law enforcement. however, that said, the law enforcement so far comes across as extremely corrupt.

You’ll learn more about this, especially the law enforcement (less so the Jinx) as we go along. It’s related to the question of where they are, which you mentioned above.

uh-oh, more drama. Jenn’s pregnant? oh boy.

I really like the kind of power that Dr. Lee commands with the other members. the way you describe it is.. well.. very fitting.

I’ll let you in on an inside joke here. Her name is Dr. Lee because that’s a reversal of the syllables of “leader.” I’ll mention that in the blog at some point.

I get the idea that they’re a religious group, the Witnesses, the more I read.

I would say so, though it’s not explicit.

crap, they lost the briefcase again! as for Jenn, I find it a little hard to believe she’s dead. but I’ll find out more, I’m sure.

They’ll get the briefcase back, but Jenny is dead. So is Carl. We may see them later on in flashbacks, but that’s it.

very good chapter.

Thanks. You’re now 1/3 through the book. Maybe not in terms of number of words, but on the table of contents page (http://text.u-town.com/utown) you’ll notice that the chapters are organized into three columns, and the columns are uneven. There’s a reason for this, which is that the book really divides into three parts, and the chapter starling is the beginning of the second part. That wasn’t really planned, but, once it was finished, it was obvious that was true.

Chet and Randi

This week's featured characters are Chet and Randi.

Chet is one of Pete's best friends, and quite a fixture in U-town. He is intelligent, witty, and very interested in the affairs of the larger world outside the borders of U-town. The last is one of the main things Pete likes about him, he isn't as insular as many of the people Pete knows.

There is one thing about Chet which makes some people a bit uneasy, though. He often seems to be talking to himself.

He's not talking to himself, however, and many people get even more uneasy when they realize this. He's talking to his girlfriend, Randi.

You can't see her (except on special occasions), you can only hear her when she wants you to, but you'd be well advised not to say anything bad about her, because she can see and hear you whenever she likes.

And she knows with great certainty if you've been naughty or nice, and exactly how much of each. She mostly doesn't care, of course, but she knows.

Randi claims to be omniscient and omnipotent, and there's every evidence that she's telling the truth. And, if that wasn't enough to make you take care, she drinks to excess from time to time.

Chet and Randi did not appear in A Sane Woman (though of course Randi may have been there and keeping quiet). Their first appearance in U-town is very near the beginning, as they come into the bar Duffy's, cheerfully arguing about something.

Of course, to those who haven't met Randi, like Vicki Wasserman, Chet is simply a guy talking to himself.

You can read more about Randi here.

journal 1/23/05

Hi.

It's my 50th birthday.

About 15 years ago, I started a novel, a mystery, called A Sane Woman. I was publishing the chapters in monthly installments, in little chapbooks, but then I discovered BBSs (computer bulletin boards), and I wanted to post my writing there.

But A Sane Woman didn't fit into that format, you had to read whole chapters in order to get the right effect, and on BBSs (as on the internet more recently) things worked better in smaller doses. So, I put A Sane Woman aside and started another project, with no plan and no preconceptions. A few sysops (the people who ran the BBSs) gave me space to work. I posted a lot of messages, and gradually it began to turn in a novel as well, a much longer and more complex one than A Sane Woman would have been.

But then the BBS scene was killed by the internet, and that project fizzed out, too.

More recently, it started to bother me that neither book had ever been finished. So, I went back and finished them, and posted them on the web. And I'm pretty happy with how they turned out.

One of the problems with writing for the web (unlike the BBSs and unlike paper), is that everything is always subject to revision, nothing is ever finished. So, I decided that I would finish both books on my 50th birthday. And here they are:

A Sane Woman is shorter. It's a mystery story.

U-town is longer. It's a gritty, urban, magical realist story.

A Sane Woman takes place earlier (they involve some of the same characters), so it's probably better (but not essential) to read them in order.

Hope you like them.